Occupation 101
76Voices of the silent majority
This video series is the truth about the occupation of Palestine. It was put together by good Jews and Christians that are sick and tired of seeing the Palestinians treated the way they are by the Zionists and the truth not being told. It's needed to counteract a very distorted history of Israel that I recently read here at Hubpages. This quote that starts off the first video applies very well to that distorted history of Israel.
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance ...
... it's the illusion of knowledge."
Occupation 101 Part 1
Part 1 first shows how similar the occupation of Palestine is with other occupations. Flipping from a news real from 1947 to a news real from 2004 with Israeli Defense Force soldiers taking over homes and IDF snipers not hesitating to shoot anything that moves, including journalists. It starts to show how the Palestinian situation is deeply disturbing. "You are about to witness images and testimony largely hidden from main stream America".
Occupation 101 Part 2
Part 2 shows how the IDF remove families from their homes and particularly how it effects Palestinian children. It shows the armed Israeli settlements spread out all over the West Bank, surrounded by barbed wire. "And the bottom line in all of this is to make Palestinians leave the country. It's a very hard term I know, but in a sense it's kind of ethnic cleansing." Both Palestinian Christians and Muslims are being discriminated against. Neither have the legal right to come to Jerusalem to worship. "Some of the first converts to the teachings of Jesus were Palestinians, so that's how long Christians have been in that land."
Occupation 101 part 3
"The presence of a Christian community within the Holy Land, can you imagine, where Jesus first stepped foot will no longer be there". The Root Cause of the Conflict; the myth that there was always a conflict between Jews and Muslims. A very small minority adhered to Zionism to start with. Zionism is the beginning of the conflict. The myth that Palestine was empty when the Zionists first came there. At the time of the first Zionist colony in 1878 the population was overwhelmingly Arab; Muslim and Christian Arabs totaled 96.8%. The Balfour Declaration conflicted with England's previous promise of self rule for the Arab inhabitants. In 1922 Muslim and Christian Arabs totaled 87.6% with 11% Jews. In 1931 Muslim and Christian Arabs totaled 81.6% with 16.9% Jews. With the rise of Nazi Germany the Jewish population doubled. "The Palestinians, they were not the Nazis, they were not responsible for the Holocaust, but they were the ones that paid the price." With the UN Partition Plan the Arabs were to be given 43% of the land despite the fact that they made up two thirds of the population and owned over 92% of the land. Jews were to be given 56% of the land all though they comprised only one third of the population and owned less than 8% of the total area. Jews were given the most fertile land. Zionist leaders took advantage of their superior military preparation and began occupying major Arab cities. Ethnic cleansing of Palestinians in Deir Yassin and other Palestinian towns and villages (by Irgun and Stern Gang Zionist terrorists) led to the flight of many unarmed Palestinians.
Occupation 101 Part 4
About 300,000 Palestinians had been expelled before the first Arab soldier entered Palestine. When the Arab armies entered the war there was a superiority on the side of the Zionists, Arab soldiers totaled 69,000 while Jewish soldiers totaled 90,000. "The Israeli army cleansed much of the territory and took over a large part of the Palestinian state". In 1948 the new state of Israel encompassed 78% of the land of Palestine. Most of the Palestinian towns and villages were erased from upon the earth. Of the 500 Palestinian towns and villages in 1948 400 were destroyed. This was counted by the United Nations. Jewish testimonies saying they got along with the Palestinians like brothers before Zionism. During the 1967 war Israel displaced more than 400,000 more Palestinians and occupied the West Bank and Gaza. Israel took on the "break the bone" strategy. Since 1967 over 400,000 Palestinians have been imprisoned, many without any charges. During the peace process of the Oslo Accord the lives of the Palestinians became much worse and the Israel settlements doubled in size and population.
Occupation 101 Part 5
"How can it be liberated if there is an army around it?" "The performance of the PLO in running the Palestinian authority and it's failures in negotiating with Israel have very much diminished support for the PLO leadership." In January 2006 the Palestinians voted the PLO out of office giving Hamas the required seats to form a majority government. "... settlements. Which are continually expanding. And what does it mean to expand? It means you steal more land." Accounts of more Palestinian orchards being confiscated for settlements and Israeli only bypass roads. Israeli settlers attacking Palestinians indiscriminately.
Occupation 101 Part 6
Comparing the occupied territories to Apartheid South Africa by an eye witness of both, who says the South Africans were much better off than the Palestinians. "Israel would not be able to do what it is doing without the American green light." "First of all there is the lobby, the US Lobby for Israel, AIPAC." From 1978 - 2006 Pro-Israeli Political Action Committees have contributed $43,724,035 to candidates who vote in Congress according to AIPACs recommendations. "Another factor is the fundamentalist Christian community" (John Hagee, Pat Robertson and many other US false prophets of the christian zionist movement). Dr. William Baker says "I as a Christian and a Christian pastor object. Not in my name and not in the name of over 115 to 120 million Christians do you dare say that we support injustice and deceit. We do not." (The christian zionist movement in the US has given Christianity a bad name.) The third factor is that the American media play a major role in continuing US support for Israel. "Information is being manipulated." "Israel, for example does not abide at all by International Law. The entire occupation is illegal. The violation in particular of the 4th Geneva Convention. By the rules of the 4th Geneva Convention you're not allowed to build settlements. You're not allowed to build roads. You're not allowed to expropriate land. You're not allowed to deport people. You're not allowed to restrict their freedom of movement." (Continued)
Occupation 101 Part 7
"You're not allowed to harm their economy. You're not allowed to make them unemployed or impoverished." The US taxpayer is paying for this. "Israel receives as much foreign economic assistance as all the countries combined in the world." Latin America, the Caribbean and Sub-Saharan Africa total US Aid from 1949 to 1996 equaled $62.5 Billion, per person $59. Israel total US Aid from 1949 to 1996 equaled $62.5 Billion, per person $10,775. In March 2003 the US Government approved $10 Billion in aid for Israel. How could that be spent in the US? From 1949 to 2006 US Aid to Israel amounts to $108 Billion. Today it averages $2 to $3 Billion per year or $6 to $8 Million per day. Israel is currently the most extensive violator of UN Security Council Resolutions. The United States has used it's Veto power more than 40 times in the UN to defend Israeli violations of International Law. The need to control oil. Gaza and the West Bank are considered a prison. Israel uses excessive force against the unarmed. IDF firing on children.
Occupation 101 Part 8
The Israeli occupation makes Palestinian lives unbearable. Israel is the 5th largest nuclear power in the world, between 200 and 300 war heads. Israel is the regional super power. Israeli tanks 3930, Palestinian 0. Israeli F-16 jets 362, Palestinian 0. The largest fleet of F-16s in any country in the world behind the United States. "At every stage they had used grossly excessive force against a completely defenseless civilian population." The walls and check points make Palestinians wait hours and hours to go very short distances. According to World Bank estimates unemployment is now reaching 53% of the population with 75% of Palestinians living in poverty on less than $2 a day. Education is effected, students cannot go to universities. Prevented to go to the hospital. A gigantic prison.
Occupation 101 Part 9
"Palestinians in Gaza have been under Israeli military control for over 38 years. For 1.3 million Palestinians were crowded together to make room for 8,000 Israeli settlers." The re-location of Israeli settlers from Gaza in 2005 was portrayed as an unprecedented sacrifice, but in reality it was simply Israel finally complying with International Law. The evacuation of settlers from Gaza constituted only 2% of the entire Israeli settler population. Each illegal settler was promised $227,000 to relocate totaling $2.2 Billion, an expense Israel has asked the United States to pay for. Gaza is a prison with Israel controlling the borders, air space and coastal waters. Palestinians in refugee camps now number 4,255,120. If this video does not make you shed a tear for the Palestinian children then you are heartless. And this video series was release before the IDF rained white phosphorus down on Gaza during the winter of 2008–2009.
Occupation 101 Part 10
A short interview by Rachel Corrie (continued from previous video) before she was murdered by an IDF bulldozer operator. "As Israel completed it's withdrawal from Gaza the following day it issued orders to confiscate additional Palestinian land from the West Bank and continued the construction of the separation wall." This wall is twice the height of the Berlin Wall and 4 times longer, ripping through villages severing travel for work, health care and education. Separating farmers from their land and families from their loved ones. Illan Pappe, an Israeli historian and analyst says, "Anybody outside of Israel who supports a two state solution has to be very careful because what they mean in a two state solution is that 90% of historical Palestine will be Israel, in the rest 10% you'll have two huge prison camps, one in the Gaza strip and one in the West Bank." There is currently over 420,000 Israeli settlers living inside the West Bank and East Jerusalem (that was over 3 years ago). Over the coming years, Israel intends to expand that number by the thousands. Israeli Jews start to talk about Israeli propaganda. A report concluded "Suicide bombers often experience personal trauma related to the Israeli forces prior to their volunteering, such as the death or injury of a family member."
Occupation 101 Part 11
Currently 1674 Israeli soldiers refuse to serve the occupation (I'm sure that number is higher by now). At least 323 have been imprisoned for objecting. The Palestinians are the victims and the world should realize that. "Criticizing Israel for what they do ... that's not anti-semetic, that's humane." Said to Israel, "If you keep going down this path you are going to destroy yourselves. No enemy will have to destroy you, you're rotting from within, because of the methods you are using against innocent people." This has to stop.
In part 3 of this video series we learned that a very small minority adhered to Zionism to start with. With 14,100,000 results for a search for Jews against Israel and 283,000 results for a search for Jews against Zionism I think we can come to the conclusion that it is still a minority of the Jewish world that supports Zionism. Shlomo Sand said a mouth full with his book The Invention Of The Jewish People and he has good reason to call for a one state solution. This 3 page review of Shlomo's book is very revealing. There are many Jews both inside and outside of Israel that are calling for a one state solution.
To the Christian Zionist, have you forgotten the second part of the New Covenant? Matthew 22:36-40 "Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets." The Palestinians are "thy neighbour" too. Don't allow John Hagee, Pat Robertson or any other US false prophet of the Christian Zionist movement to deceive you any more so you lose your inheritance. I wrote this web page called The Chosen 5 or 6 years ago to try to put those that are deceived by the Christian Zionist movement back on the right path.
Concerning the US media regarding Israel and the occupation, shut them off. It's all propaganda and lies anyway.
The US is not a sovereign country if it's politicians, both Republicans and Democrats allow the Israeli lobby to dictate US foreign policy. It's high time for Americans to step up to the plate. Do whatever you can to encourage your government to take a strong initiative to end the occupation.
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I didn't approve your first long comment SirDent because the Nobel Prize awards have completely nothing to do with this hub. It seems often they are more about the current political climate than anything. Well let's face it, even Obama got one.
Well SirDent, who to believe?
The people in the above video series, good professional Jews and Christians who comprise of Israeli journalists, historians and anylists, Rabbis, descendants of Jews that lived in Palestine who say their ancestors lived in peace with the Arabs before the Zionists got there, Doctors of theology, Catholic Bishops and other Christian leaders, peace activists with first hand video and audio accounts, video and audio accounts of Israel's IDF "break the bone" strategy and former US diplomats to Israel and the Middle East. The voices of the silent majority.
Or a second hand account past down to you from a rinky dink false prophet like John Hagee, Pat Robertson or one of the many other US false prophets of the christian zionist movement.
Who to believe? Hmm, that's a hard decision. Not.
For every action there is a reaction. Did you not watch the video in Part 10 or at least read my comments about it? A report concluded "Suicide bombers often experience personal trauma related to the Israeli forces prior to their volunteering, such as the death or injury of a family member."
Do you actually believe a word that man says? I have another quote to match the yahu's, "If the Zionists didn't start the violence to begin with it wouldn't be still going on today. If the Palestinians, who comprise of Jews, Muslims and Christians and their supporters, which is the majority of the world stopped protesting against Zionism the Israeli state would eventually swallow up all Palestinian land, and US administrations wouldn't just allow it but finance it." quote by me
I guess you haven't heard, Obama just said a couple of weeks ago that he is going to open up the 9/11 investigation again. But I'll believe that only when I see it.
Like I say on my hub, John Hagee, Pat Robertson and many other US false prophets of the christian zionist movement have given Christianity a bad name. I'll pray for your conversion. Your inheritance may be at stake.
Who to believe when you get right down to it is God and God alone.
Let's look at what God did.
He promised land to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Ishmael had nothing to do with isaac or Jacob. Ishmael is trying to take away the blessing that God gave Israel. That is the bottom line.
It is easy to call people false prophets. Jezebel called Elijah a false prophet and even prophesied a death against him. She received that death herself though when it was all over with. Be careful when speaking against God's anointed.
As far as the videos are concerned, I am limited on what I can watch due to restrictions. So I did not watch any of them.
Well if you did not watch any of the videos then why are you posting here? My comments about each video come directly from the videos so at least you are not missing everything. Actually there is a series of quotes at the end of the last video that you should hear, about it being an American issue that has to be fought and won in the US, because this is an issue of American Foreign Policy. I'll post one quote from Allegra Pacheco, an Israeli human rights lawyer. She says "Israelis are talking about this. And I think it's time for Americans to realize they are the only ones that are not talking about it. And that is very dangerous for their own interests and for the interest of Israeli Jews here."
If you read the review of Shlomo Sand's book you will realize that even Jews in Israel are starting to see that the Palestinians are closer to the 12 tribes than the Ashkenazi Jews that control the zionist state are. Among other things my next hub will show how the Ashkenazi Jews from Eastern Europe and Russia also discriminate against Sephardi and other Jewish groups.
http://www.alternet.org/story/122810/?page=1
Do you just read the Old Testament? You should try reading the New Testament too. In your case particularly Galatians 3.
Galatians 3:7 "Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham." Galatians 3:16 "Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ." Galatians 3:29 "And if you be Christ's, then are you the seed of Abraham, heirs according to the promise." You might want to read the Chosen. I wrote it specifically for you and others that are deceived by the christian zionist false prophets.
http://www.whymostfail.com/chosen.html
The True Torah Jews web site has a different quote on it's front page each day by one of their Rabbis from the past. Today they are quoting Rabbi Yissachar Dov Rokeach of Belz who said "There could be, before the arrival of Mashiach, that the Satan should succeed, and the evildoers should get a State in the Land of Israel. Their state would be a big danger for every Jew in material and spiritual matters." The first link below is the True Torah Jews front page. The second link is the page for Rabbi Yissachar Dov Rokeach of Belz in case other viewers want to read what he said tomorrow or later when they are quoting a different Rabbi.
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/rabbi_quotes/rab
So do you see SirDent why I have no problem calling John Hagee, Pat Robertson or any other leaders of the US christian zionist movement false prophets. Don't be deceived by them.
Hi Mike - Unfortunately I don't have time to watch all of these videos but I commend your efforts in putting this hub together. As you know, I travel extensively and it is only in America that the truth of the Gaza blockade is so misunderstood. Sometimes wilfully misunderstood, reinforced by wilful misrepresentation on the media.
Mike -Well done -there is so much bias against the Palestinians throughout the media!It seems okay in this particular case to blame all for the sins of a few.
Voted up .. face-booked etc.Brilliant."The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance ...
... it's the illusion of knowledge."
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Thank you Paraglider. Nice to hear from you, especially on this issue seeing you are so well travelled. You reinforce Allegra Pacheco's quote from my last comment. When you look at the Gaza blockade you just have to ask yourself "What to h___ gives the zionist state the authority to do this?" Then you realize, oh yeah, the US administrations bought off by the Israel lobby, backed by a corrupt media and a twisted form of christianity that is not Christian. It's sickening.
Thanks itakins for voting it up and facebooking it. Nice to hear from you too. You sure got that right, about the media. That quote reminded me of some hub authors that portray a completely distorted history of the zionist state. And it wasn't even one of SirDent's hubs that I was thinking of at the time. The christian zionist false prophets sure must have them brainwashed.
Today, Oct. 21, 2010 the True Torah Jews quote Rabbi Michael Dov Weissmandl ZT"L Dean of Nitra Yeshiva on the front page of their web site. But the full page for him is a must read. God bless him.
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/rabbi_quotes/wei
The truth about the occupation and the voices of deceased Rabbis will eventually put an end to the brutality of zionism and an end to the false prophets of the US christian zionist movement.
Unfortunately, I have no sound on my computer and therefore cannot hear the videos at this time. I can comment on your words. In part two you state:
"Both Palestinian Christians and Muslims are being discriminated against. Neither have the legal right to come to Jerusalem to worship."
This is false. I was in the Holy Land last year and in Jerusalem the most prominent building is the mosque known as the Dome of the Rock, built by conquering Muslims on the most sacred spot in the world for Jews and Christians. It would be equivalent to tearing down Mecca and building a huge Cathedral there. I saw plenty of Muslims and Christians worshiping there. The Muezzin can be heard loud and clear calling Muslims to prayer.
From 1948 to 1967, it was Jews who were not allowed to worship in Jerusalem at their most holy place, the Wailing Wall. Jews allowed access for Arabs to the western section; but the Jordanians refused to allow Jews the right to visit their scared sites in the eastern section. In fact, the Jordanians removed Jewish grave stones to be used in latrines—so they could piss on them.
In part three you claim this conflict began in the 19th century, conveniently overlooking that it began in 635, when Arabs conquered the Holy Land. There were three million Jews living there before the conquest. Only 300,000 remained afterward. The Arabs had there own land, Arabia, but were on a mission to conquer the world and vanquish Jews and Christians by conversion or death.
At the Congress of Berlin in 1878, the Ottomans allied themselves with Western Europeans against the Russians, and offered protection for Jews if they were to create a Jewish state in Palestine. Inspired by this, Jews invested in farming and roads in Israel. Half the population of Jerusalem was Jewish by 1881.
There has never been a nation known as Palestine. There was an area by that name, ruled by Jews the longest (2,000 years), then Roman Pagans, then Byzantine Christians, then Arabs, then Christians again, then Egyptians, then Turks, then the British. You seem to think that only the British, Jews, and Christians were illegitimate. What made the Arabs, Egyptians, or Turks more legitimate?
The region known as Palestine, as part of the Ottoman Empire, included an area many times larger than present day Israel. All of present day Jordan was included.
In 1880, half the population of 300,000 in greater Palestine (including the future Jordan) were Arabs; mostly migrants, nomads and bandits, from various tribes. They had made no contribution to modern civilization. 50 nationalities with as many languages inhabited the land, including 38,000 Christians—but none were called Palestinians. Arabs had never named this land and had not governed it the previous 800 years. There were no people on Earth known as Palestinians until the 1950s.
After the Jews had turned barren desert into irrigated farmland, created a clean water supply, sanitation, and largely eliminated malaria; Arabs began moving there to work as laborers on Jewish farms. Most of the land in Israel was purchased by Jews from absentee Arab landowners. This land was in no way the "ancestral homeland of Palestinians for thousands of years." That is a modern myth.
In Israel (of its present borders), the population in 1893 was 60,000 Jews; 45,000 Arabs; and 45,000 others. In all of Palestine including Jordan lived 260,000 Arabs, mostly backward, lethargic tenant farmers and laborers. The Jews in Israel were largely educated, motivated and industrious.
By 1931, 554,000 Jews lived in the future Israel. Grave problems soon arose regarding relations with Arabs, who now numbered 555,000 in all of Palestine, including Jordan.
The Nazis then recruited Arabs as allies for the up-coming World War Two; and fomented hatred of Jews, as well as anti-British sentiment. Hitler was adored by Arabs for his persecution of Jews. For three years violence was perpetuated upon the Jews by Arabs, to drive them off land, for which Jews had paid Arabs high prices. By this time, 960,000 Arabs (10% of them Christians) lived in Greater Palestine along with 460,000 Jews—but most of the capital investment had come from Jews.
The Peel Commission (1937) set out to resolve the problems in Palestine. The solution: to divide Palestine into separate Jewish and Arab states. This would grant the Jews only 17% of their original promised Homeland—yet they accepted it. Arabs complained that this solution would grant Jews the best farmland—conveniently not mentioning that these fabulous agricultural areas had been swamps or desert for centuries before Jewish labor and capital had miraculously transformed them.
The modern state of Israel sits on only 6% of the land that was once called Palestine. The muslims control 94%.
The very day after the State of Israel was established, it was attacked by five modern Muslim armies, which were assisted by four other armies from Muslim countries.
In addition to the armies that attacked the State of Israel, Muslim civilians began sniper attacks on Jews inside the State of Israel during the Israel War of Independence. Muslims escalated the Israel Arab conflict when they attacked kibbutzes inside the new State of Israel; set off bombs in Jewish neighborhoods; mutilated the corpses of dead Jews; opened fire on convoys carrying food and medical supplies, and even shot doctors and nurses.
From 1946 to 1950 500,000 Muslims fled the present day Israel, hoping to settle in Muslim countries. And 500,000 Jews fled from muslim countries to Israel. The history behind the current Israel Arab conflict can be traced to how these one million refugees, equal parts jews and muslims, were treated by their brothers in the country they moved to during and after the Israel War of Independence.
Jewish refugees were immediately granted citizenship in the new State of Israel and assisted in resettlement among the general population. Muslim refugees were put into camps by Arab governments—where many of them still live 60 years later.
By and large the Arab refugees were not given citizenship or the right to start a new life in the Arab countries to which they fled after the Israel War of Independence. The reason for this is that the Arab countries saw these refugees as useful pawns in future efforts to eventually rid the Middle East of Jews. Arab governments certainly had the resources to take them in. The State of Israel accomodated an equal number of refugees.
The Arab refugees were called Palestinians for the first time in history in the 1950s. Never before in human history had any human being ever called himself a Palestinian—no such nationality ever existed.
Numerous international studies of this history concluded that the Arab refugees should be absorbed by the surrounding Arab countries, given the dignity of resettlement so they could become productive citizens.
100,000,000 human beings have become refugees since 1945 (worldwide) and no other people have been kept in camps anywhere close to this length of time in world history.
850,000 Jews lived in Muslim countries in 1948. Only 20,000 remain there today. None of the 830,000 who fled Muslim lands are in refugee camps; none are demanding the right to return to from whence they came.
Half of all Israelis today are descendants of these refugees from Arab lands. 300,000 Jews emigrated from Morocco to Israel; 140,000 came from Algeria; 125,000 from Iraq; 100,000 from Tunisia; 75,000 from Egypt; 50,000 from Yemen; 35,000 from Syria; 35,000 from Libya. A Jew may not set foot in Arabia today.
The 320,000 Arabs who remained inside the State of Israel after the Israel War of Independence were offered Israeli citizenship. Half chose to leave the State of Israel after the war. Those who stayed were granted full citizenship in 1952.
After the cease fire, Arabs demanded that all people who had fled from Israel during the fighting be allowed to return. The Jews refused unless Arab governments recognized Israel as a sovereign nation with the right to exist in peace—which all Muslims refused to even consider.
The Arab refugees were held by Arab governments in filthy, wretched conditions. 250,000 were put into camps by Jordan; 115,000 by Egypt; 100,000 by Lebanon; and 80,000 by Syria. The United Nations provided food, medicine and education for them, but did not give any aid to the Jewish refugees absorbed into the new Jewish State. By 1956, 61 percent of the Arab refugees had moved out of the camps, but still claimed the United Nations benefits of refugee status. By 1960, 960,000 Arabs were receiving support from the U.N., that number grew to 1.3M in 1968.
Worldwide Islam declared Holy War against all Jews, which the Quran denounces as "vipers." No Muslim government would recognize the Jewish State. Muslims burned with resentment over their humiliating defeat in the 1948 Israel War of Independence—which Muslims call "the Catastrophe."
Muslims seethed when they observed the economic success, democracy and freedoms the people enjoyed living in the State of Israel. This Muslim resentment is at the heart of the Israel Arab conflict. It is amplified by the fact that most Arabs live in impoverished backwardness under authoritarian regimes in Arab nations.
Make Money, I finally made it here. So thanks for the informaiton and letting me know about this hub. I could not get all the video's either but I commend you on your work. Here is a site that explains it in more detail and hopefully ou will add it here or in your next hub about this: http://www.factsandlogic.org/ad_03c.html
Now those Zionists and SirDent. You are correct, he can't read the Bible and I have figured out why they cannot do so and how that specific group works to get them "brainwahsed" and into not reading the Bible by themselves. The church or the leaders of such stroke their ego's, then when they start asking questions about them they then start instilling FEAR into them. Whiel they are instilling that fear they continue to stroke their EGOS and they become prideful and such. Well if they read the Bible, and the verses that you gave says it very well, they would know that being full of Pride is wrong in itself. I see some of the Catholic Churches doing this also, so it across the board. I also see some coming out from that and you are one that I see and commend for that as you do go the extra distance in your search for facts. As you have experienced and I too have expereinced we get told that we are angry or they will use certain verses from that Bible of Theirs as a sword to get you to believe that is all there is and we know it isn't.
I wish that I could see the video's but they keep locking up or are slow to load and come in spurts. I may try to look at them again. Oh and Sirdent doesn't have High Speed Internet and cannot watch the, or any other, videos right now.
@James, you already wrote you hub and all that is necessary is that you post your link to it and not repost it all on here.
Will be back to read the next hub Mike.
James it was even on the news here just recently that both Muslim and Christian Palestinians, except for the elderly are being refused entry into Jerusalem for worship. Well maybe not your news. I was tempted to delete your comment when you tried to deny the people of that region the use of calling themselves Palestinians. Nothing is more disgusting in my eyes. It's as if you and the zionists are trying to wipe the name of the Palestinian people out of existence. But I decided to allow your post to show how some in the US are being deceived by the media and the christian zionist movement. The Congress of Berlin in 1878 is exactly what the majority of Rabbis write against, the creation of a Jewish state in Palestine. You can read a different quote from a different Rabbi every day at the True Torah Jews web site condemning zionism.
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/
I do agree within this "ruled by Jews ... then Roman Pagans, then Byzantine Christians, then Arabs, then Christians again, then Egyptians, then Turks, then the British." That is why there are Jews, Christians and Muslims within the Palestinian population.
"The modern state of Israel sits on only 6% of the land that was once called Palestine. The muslims control 94%." Let's try not to confuse things James. You know we are not talking about Jordan, Lebanon and Syria. In classical or contemporary terms, Palestine is the common name for the area west of the Jordan River. The boundaries of two new states were laid down within the territory of the British Mandate, Palestine and Transjordan. At the present time the zionists control 100% of Palestine, with two Palestinian concentration camps within it's borders, Gaza and the West Bank.
No James history shows a completely different story than what you are trying to portray. Ethnic cleansing of Palestinians in Deir Yassin and other Palestinian towns and villages by Irgun and Stern Gang Zionist terrorists led to the flight of many unarmed Palestinians. About 300,000 Palestinians had been expelled before the first Arab soldier entered Palestine. Most Muslim countries have offered the right of return to Jews previously living in there countries. Over 4 million Palestinians live in refugee camps are registered with the UN until the zionist state recognizes the UN Resolution of Right of Return. I have heard a UN official that had just returned from the Middle East say the Palestinians in the refugee camps outside of Israel have a higher standard of living than people on disability support, mother's allowance and welfare do here in the west.
A one state solution is the only solution and most Jews agree.
Thanks Lady Guinevere. Yes I realize that even some Catholics in the US have fallen for the christian zionist crap. Yeah my next hub will be an account by Jews of what really happened in Palestine between 1946 and 1948. It will clear up some of the untruths of that time, including some of the stuff in the link you posted.
When reading you hub and then going to that site, I did see some things that you got from there.
I don't know about you or anyone else but I think people are starting to puyt two and two together and there will be an uprising of the people that are forced into servitude to some other peoples or corporations and banks and realators and all kinds of things that we have had enough of. That is what I think 2012 is going to be all about, not physical destruction of earth and not taken away in the air or something like that. Those users are scared to death that we the people will get up and crush them so they are putting FEAR into us. Well we can only take it for so long then all "hell" breaks lose. The truth needs to come to the light.
LOL. Why the insults? James has done very well in explaining and yet I see insults thrown about. What is the point of insulting me or anyone else?
LG, why don't you come to where I go to church. You do not live that far away from me.
Sir D - 'Why the insults?' Your first, mercifully deleted, comment showed you in rather a bad light, using the word 'muslim' as a deliberate insult on Mike whom you described sarcastically as 'my muslim friend' or words to that effect, all the time knowing him to be a Roman Catholic. Even I, an agnostic, was saddened by your show of prejudice. I felt it was beneath you.
James - you too are letting yourself down here. The whole world knows that the siege of Gaza is an atrocity. You also know that to be true. Or if you don't, it's only because you are not looking at what is happening there.
Mike - I am not a Christian, but coming from a Christian tradition I am distressed to see Christianity once again hijacked by the bloodthirsty. You are correct in saying that the Zionist movement is not truly Jewish. It is supremacist, very ugly, and largely financed by very sinister people.
SirDent, why in the world would I want to set foot in a church again especially yours. You delight to be on your pedestal and I surely do not want to be under you when you fall. Perhaps you could come down from there and be just like the rest of us peons and read some of my latest hubs. Oh I forgot you told me that you don't read them. Sorry your loss. Not my gain, just my opinion. Get thee behind me Satan. LOL
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Well Mike, I enjoyed your Hud and yes I agree with you that people like at Robinson and Hagee and even many protestant churches have a different Gospel message then what Jesus taught to his flock. Things never really changed even with the Reformation but that is to be expected. I think it was ,mentioned in history that many Palestinians are descendants of Esua. Maybe this continual conflict By Issac's two sons Jacob and Esua still continues up into this Day. Askenazi Jews from Europe are a mixture of their combined descendants.
Revelation 3:14-21 warns the Laodicea Church of their lack of following Jesus teachings, This is why the great Tribulation will come about to punish these fat cats that think everything is okay. Their is a big difference between false Christian Zionist and real Christian Zionist that look forward to Christ return to Zion not a false messiah that the Jews are looking for. But Jesus Christ as King of kings and Lord of lords, Zechariah 8:1-17, Revelation chapters 19&20.
The revival of the old Holy Roman Empire under the name of New World Order will come to its end Revelation 13:1-10, Daniel 2:7:2-14,17-22, 24-28.
Keep up the good work! This world is in a mess but Jesus will come and save our arses no matter of how we treat each other, Matthew 24:21-22.
I agree Lady Guinevere "people are starting to put two and two together." What comes of it is yet to be seen. But it's not to hard to realize that a lot of people are not happy with what's been happening.
That's right Paraglider, Christianity has been hijacked in the US by the Christian Zionist movement at the same time Judaism has been hijacked in Israel by Zionists. Some don't realize it but both have blood on their hands whether directly or indirectly.
A search for 'Christianity has been hijacked in the US by the Christian Zionist movement' brings up 37,400 results.
http://www.google.ca/search?q=Christianity+has+bee
A search for 'Judaism has been hijacked in Israel by Zionists' brings up 36,800 results.
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a
Thanks for recognizing that I needed to delete that first comment.
Yeah lionswhelp a lot of people believe that the Palestinians are descendants of Esua. But actually Herod was a descendant of Esau.
http://www.google.com/search?q=Palestinians+are+de
You know the Herodian Dynasty that ruled the Roman province of Judea between 37 BC and 92 AD.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herodian_Dynasty
In contrast this page on the Samaritans says many Palestinians are descendants of the Samaritans, as in the good Samaritan from the Bible. And descendants of the Northern Israelite tribes of Ephraim and Manasseh, two parts of the tribe of Joseph. Many Samaritans converted to Christianity during the Byzantine period then some converted to Islam upon it's rise. But in 1021 with the passing of the al-Hakem Edict by the Fatimids all Jews and Christians in the Fatimid ruled southern Levant were ordered to either convert to Islam or leave. There are 5 families left, a total population of 712 people that still practice the Samaritan Jewish religion. For these reasons this is why we find Jews, Christians and Muslims within the Palestinian population.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samaritan
Many Jews in Israel are starting to realize this. That is why many Jews including Shlomo Sand in his book are calling for a one state solution where both Jews and Palestinians are guaranteed equal protection. In fact, it was one of several plans considered by the United Nations when it created the state of Israel in the 1940s. Making Jerusalem an international city was part of the original accepted UN plan. In his book Shlomo Sand compares the ancestry of both the Palestinian Arabs and the Ashkenazi Jews. The 4 page review of his book is well worth reading.
http://www.alternet.org/story/122810/?page=1
"Their is a big difference between false Christian Zionist and real Christian Zionist that look forward to Christ return to Zion not a false messiah that the Jews are looking for." That is true lionswhelp when you consider the Zionist plan to build the third temple on the site of the Dome of the Rock. True Torah Jews won't recognize this false messiah either for God will send them His two witnesses (Revelation 11). Yep the New World Order will come to an end and Jesus will come to save our buts. Thanks lionswhelp.
Mike,
Here's another tidit about the Attitude of some Judaizers' I thought only the Chinese would stoup this low. Check these web pages out when you get the time:
www.sott.net/articlesshow/201391-Will-haiti-become-a-body-organ-harvesting-mecca-for-IDF
www.infowars.com/index.php?topic=155226.360
www.infowars.com/articles/ps/china_total_dehumanization.htm
It is also interesting to know that of the original twelve disciples or apostles only one was from the Tribe of Judah the rest were from the Tribe of Benjamin. Money grubbing Judas was typical of how they are. I heard this said by E.Raymond Capt the archeologist on one of his videos about the Temple.
Thanks for the help you gave me in the past about Judaism and how they really could have survived the holocaust. But no 6m Jews died because the NWO wanted martyrs not survivors.
I still look forward to seeing Father FitzSimmons in the new world of Jesus Christ coming soon. He got me out of the RCC to go and get involved in waking up all the dummies in the Protestant churches who think about the poor Jews. Well their are poor Jews put the bunch running this world are a sorry bunch of power mad money grubbers. Yes, it is the Jews that follow the verbal Torah from Babylon as Judaizer Cabalaist that are a main cause from most of this world's madness.
The first link you posted lionswhelp came up not found but I found it here.
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/201391-Will-Hait
The second link just looks like the infowars front page. The third link is rather disgusting. I imagine not many women would use make up or get collagen injections if they read that page.
I know you or any 7th Day Adventist have it out for the RCC lionswhelp. But in reality there is nothing derogatory against the RCC on the first link that you posted. T West is just saying that Jean Wyclef got unnecessarily maligned in the media even though he collected charitable donations for Haiti the same way that the Catholic Church and the Red Cross did, by offering the opportunity to send money by way of text mail. Haiti is predominately Catholic. Also T West is rightfully or wrongfully connecting the fact that the CNN reporter found a box of corneas from cadavers at a field hospital in Haiti to the Israeli connected organ harvesting/selling ring that got busted in New Jersey in 2009 and the way some Palestinian corpses have been found. T West would want to be right in what he is saying cause Haiti can't afford to lose any help or charitable donations. It was on the news today that there is now a Cholera epidemic outbreak in Haiti. Man they have been through the ringer. They need our prayers.
The main purpose of this hub is to inform about Zionism and to end the Occupation. I don't want it to turn into lets hate the Jews or any other group. Some Jews as well as Catholics have also been victims of Zionism in Israel.
Mike and I thought the Jews were a peaceful people who didn't get into wars or anybody elses business. I am just gonna sit on the sidelines and watch and read and learn for a bit.
Many are LG. Okay.
Mike ,
I found these two links about Zionism and the Rothschild dynasty. You may have already read them but here they are:
www.redicecreation.com/news/2004/11nov/zionconspiracy.html -
www.redicecreations.com/specialreports/2005/08aug/redshield.html
Henry Jones was responsible for Binai B'rith, this is a secret Jewish Masonic Order meaning "Brother of the Covenant" .Henry Jones, who moved to Austin,Texas, and is the great-greart grand father of Alex Jones. Be careful WITH THIS GUY.
Modern Zionism is a political movement.
@lionswhelp, How can you sit in judgement of anyone? We are not to jusge anyone for anything. That is God's rule. You, I beleive will bring up that we have the right to, but if you read the entire paragraph in the scriture you may use it says differently.
That being said, the Bible is not Jewish and they live by their books and their doctrine. No one has the right to tell them how they should live or where they should live. They have been on that land for a long time and they need to have their say and their peace. Why can't we share, when did this all go wrong and why? In my view on history there have been attrocities from all aggressive peoples and mainly on the unsuspecting peoples and the quiet ones. When they do have their say and begin to speak up for their own lives is when the aggressors begin the blame game and think it is their right to shut them up.
If you are saying to be careful of Alex Jones I agree with you lionswhelp. Many sources online are now calling him a zionist shill. I guess you may have just realized this seeing you have previously posted links to infowars and prisonplanet? When I read those two pages you posted I thought they were full of detail but with some things that have been proven wrong and with some other things that I would sooner keep out of the conversation because they may or may not be right.
It verifies that the Rothchild banking dynasty was the main financiers of Zionism and that Meyer Amschel Bauer changed his name to Rothchild like we have both read from many sources. I find it interesting that it was a Bauer that disputed Rabbi Michael Dov Weissmandl claim that the Zionist organizations refused to assist in saving Jews from the camps unless they were to go to Palestine. This is a quote from the first link below, "Specifically, he accused the Zionist organizations of refusing to assist in saving Jews unless they were to go to Palestine. Weissmandl supported his allegations by quoting letters from memory, and some historians such as Bauer had doubt in the accuracy of his account. Other historians, such as Fuchs and Kranzler, accepted Rabbi Weissmandl's word. Nonetheless, some of these letters have been later found, and when compared to Rabbi Weissmandl's account, they are very similar, if not word-for-word in some instances" The main point that the True Torah Jews are making by quoting Rabbis from the past is that a national homeland for the Jews should never be attempted but to wait on the coming of the Messiah (for Christians it would be the Second Coming). Many Jews agreed and still do with these Rabbis. Rabbi Michael Dov Weissmandl's page from the True Torah Jews web site is the second link below and as I previously mentioned is very revealing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaim_Michael_Dov_Wei
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/rabbi_quotes/wei
I have read that some Rothchild's opposed Zionism though. The pages that you previously posted mention the Protocols of Zion which I would sooner keep out of the conversation. Although some of what is written in them seems to have come true many people believe they are a forgery. The pages that you posted also have links to a page titled 'The Rothschilds and their "Nazi" Pope' that mentions John Cornwall's book, 'Hitler's Pope' that is referring to Pope Pius XII. This is something that I would like to correct right now.
Fr. Pierre Blet, former professor of Ecclesiastical History at the Gregorian, who was one of four persons appointed by Paul VI to compile the "Holy See's Acts and Documents of the Second World War," recalled that in at least three of the twelve volumes of this monumental work, specifically in Nos. 8, 9 and 10, are to be found "all the official documents in which the Jewish communities, the Rabbis of half the world, and other refugees, thank Pius XII and the Catholic Church for all the help and work in their favor."
http://www.ewtn.com/library/ISSUES/ZPIUS12.HTM
Also to correct John Cornwall and some others an American historian, Rabbi David G. Dalin in 2005 published 'The Myth of Hitler's Pope: How Pope Pius XII Rescued Jews from the Nazis.' Rabbi Dalin first documents how popes through history have defended the Jews, and refuted attacks like the blood libel. Then he gets to the main part of the book: defending the reputation of the late Pope Pius XII and lists some of Pius's Jewish admirers. Rabbi Dalin suggests that Yad Vashem should honor Pope Pius XII as a "Righteous Gentile", and documents that Pius was praised by all the leading Jews of his day for his role in saving more Jews than Schindler. Dalin writes: "anti-papal polemics of ex-seminarians like Garry Wills and John Cornwell (author of Hitler's Pope), of ex-priests like James Carroll, and or other lapsed or angry liberal Catholics exploit the tragedy of the Jewish people during the Holocaust to foster their own political agenda of forcing changes on the Catholic Church today."
http://www.amazon.ca/dp/0895260344/?tag=pubden09-2
It is nice to see that some Rabbis recognize how popes through history have defended the Jews and return the favor. They will also recognize the two witnesses when God sends them (Revelation 11 & Malachias 4).
In the second page that you posted lionswhelp I find it interesting that it makes the connection between Meyer Rothschild and Adam Weishaupt. Weishaupt was educated by the Jesuits but wasn't a Catholic priest like the page says. In the 1780s some papers of Adam Weishaupt were uncovered that had plans to infiltrate the Church in the future with the purpose to subvert and slander it. The papers also revealed his secret society. Weishaupt was an ardent student of French philosopher Voltaire. This quote by Voltaire is very disturbing, "Lastly, when the whole body of the Church should be sufficiently weakened and infidelity strong enough, the final blow (is) to be dealt by the sword of open, relentless persecution. A reign of terror (is) to be spread over the whole earth, and...continue while any Christian should be found obstinate enough to adhere to Christianity." It is believed that, as a result of Voltaire's writings, Weishaupt formulated his ideas concerning the destruction of the Church. In 1953, Bella Dodd testified before the US Senate about widespread Communist infiltration of labor unions, other American groups and church communities, including the Catholic Church. But like the Bible says "By their fruits you shall know them" (Matthew 7:16) and "That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it" (Matthew 16:18). This 5 minute video by The Vortex shows that most Catholics believe the problem goes deeper than the homosexual infiltration but also realizes that the "ship is turning back around" or in other words being corrected.
http://www.4marks.com/videos/details.html?video_id
That's all I want to comment about those pages lionswhelp. Like I say they are full of detail but I'll leave it up to the viewer whether they want to read them or not, a fair warning first. I had to correct the first link to this.
www.redicecreations.com/news/2004/11nov/zionconspiracy.html
When I write to AJ I always try to encourage him to do the right thing. I have had my doubts in the past about him and told him so. He seems to have changed some. A good friend of mind trained him. My friend is CIA. Thanks for the correction of that website.
Actually since I have read that Alex Jones is a zionist shill (many times) I have been wondering about it. Your friend, a CIA officer trained Alex Jones? Really? Now that's almost troubling. lol
Actually my friend volunteered his information when I told him that we were listening to Alex Jones. I did not as him. I am very sure he is also Jesuit trained. their are a lot of people that are. Even my brother in-law is one. Just the same AJ is still about the biggest Voice this nation has to wake people up. It should be interesting to see how this all comes down.
One of the top Israeli human rights lawyers, Michael Sfard says, "I have reached the conclusion that some of the policies and practices that Israel applies to the West Bank amount to apartheid."
You wrote: “Neither have the legal right to come to Jerusalem to worship.” May I ask you if you have ever been to Jerusalem and particularly to “The Old City”? I go there very often. Old City is divided into 4 quarters- Muslim, Christian, Armenian and Jewish, according to population that live there. As you can guess, Muslims live in Muslim quarter. It is the most questionable quarter and tourists are not advised to go there in night time, and at day time tourists are advised to go there only in groups. Nice reputation, isn’t it?
Besides, there’s no Muslim sacred places in Jerusalem for them to worship. Jerusalem never (not a single time) is mentioned in Koran. The Dome on the Rock which was built on the most sacred place for the Jews is the place where Arabs worship and no Jew or any tourist from other than Muslims are allowed there.
All peaceful people of any nationality are allowed to visit Christian places in Israel.
You wrote: "Some of the first converts to the teachings of Jesus were Palestinians”. Philistines (not Palestinians) of ancient time has nothing to do with Palestinians of today, they were people of Greek origin that lived in that area. Arabs started identifying themselves as Palestinians only in the second half of the 20th century, after Israel was established as a country. You are educated enough to know this fact, right? You are just not comfortable to accept it.
You wrote : “Jews in Israel are starting to see that the Palestinians are closer to the 12 tribes than the Ashkenazi Jews that control the zionist state are”. Hm, if so, then I might be living is a different country. Is there another Israel? I don’t think so. I live in Israel. I don’t see the tendency you wrote about AT ALL! Ashkenazi Jews rebuilt the country out of bogs and sands, in one century Israel made such a progress that has no analogues in the whole world.
Anyway, while I was writing my comment, I saw the comment that James wrote (the one you were so tempted to delete). I don’t have anything to add to it. Go ahead and delete my comment, after all, who am I? Just a person living in Israel, a person rushing to shelters when siren sounds, a person who served in IDF, whose children are IDF soldiers right now. What kind of truth I can tell? Only the truth that you and like you wouldn’t accept.
Truly Different for sure. You deny the fact that both Christian and Muslim Palestinians are refused entry into Jerusalem for worship. Well that's what it says in Part 2 of the video series above and I've heard it on the news more than once. But to triple check I did a search for 'Palestinians refused entry into Jerusalem for worship' and it came up with 25,600 results. See
http://www.google.ca/search?q=Palestinians+refused
It seems you don't know what's going on around you TD. Maybe it's because of the wall that separates the occupiers from the natives.
TD you call them what you want, I'll call them what they are, Palestinians. There have been Christians in the Holy Land since the time of Jesus Christ. Just the same way there have been Samaritans in the Holy Land before Christ. Both for centuries before the descendants of the Ashkenazi Jews converted to Judaism. The Encyclopedia of Judaism describes Ashkenazim this way. "In the Hebrew Bible, Ashkenaz first denotes a grandson of Japheth and great-grandson of the patriarch Noah (Gen. 10:1-3; I Chr. 1:4-6); it also designates the territory of a (Scythian?) people located north of Mesopotamia (Jer. 51:27)." If you go to Gen. 10:1-3 or 1 Chr. 1:4-6 you'll also see that Noah had 3 sons, Sem (or Shem), Ham (or Cham) and Japheth. Semites descend from Sem, not Japheth. See for yourself.
http://www.answers.com/topic/ashkenazi
I guess that is why so many Jews in Israel, including Shlomo Sand in his book are calling for a one state solution. You must have heard of Shlomo Sand, haven't you TD?
http://www.alternet.org/story/122810/?page=1
TD are Jewish grandmothers still hanging around the check points to make sure that the IDF don't commit any more atrocities against the Palestinians? You know the grandmothers that call themselves MachsomWatch, the Women Against Occupation & For Human Rights. I'm sure there are worse but the worst that I have heard was when a female IDF soldier gave a Palestinian lady acid instead of a drink of water while she was waiting in the heat to get through the check point. The Palestinian lady died right there in front of her children. Savage! You must be proud of you and your kids service in the IDF. I see the numbers of Israelis that refuse to serve in the occupied territories is growing. Here's the site for MachsomWatch, "an organisation of peace activist Israeli women against the Israeli Occupation of the territories and the systematic repression of the Palestinian nation." Check out the 'Free Item' section on the bottom right of the front page. Again another Israeli Jew or organization saying "Recently, an exhibit titled “Endless Checkpoints” ... accuses Israel of “apartheid”.
To Make Money, you are something else and I question your integrity. How can you believe all kind of propaganda? Of course we know why. You are brainwashed with liberal replacement theology. It someone starves in any country is not because of otheir nations but because of themselves. There are poured money form US and elsewere especially Arabs country and EU. There is enough food. But Philistines are masters of propaganda.
The Holy Roman Empire church is breaking hundred Bible words and commandment. If you worship church then you are violating fist commandment. By the way why do you mack Jewish Messiah, born of Jewish mother Marry? Jesus was not Christians, He never heard name Chtistians. Jesus was Jewish.
Are you blind Vladimir. I know there is propaganda coming from both the zionists and the Arabs. That is why I chose to fill this hub with the truth coming from both good Jews and Christians, mostly Jews.
The Church is the new people of God, although a restoration of the Jewish people alongside the Christians will happen in the last days (Malachias 4 & Revelation 11). Protestant theologians also read and follow the Fathers of the Church. Hippolytus, Origen, Justin Martyr, Augustine and even Martin Luther taught this.
There is a seamless transition from the Old Testament to the New Testament. If there has been a chosen people in the last 2,000 years it is the people that chose the faith of Jesus Christ. Some may say that this is "replacement theology." But how can it be replacement theology when Jesus Christ, Himself was born into the House of David? Both Mary and Joseph were from the House of David. Paul was from the Tribe of Benjamin. The Apostles and most of the first Christians were Israelites. All 3,000 that the Apostles converted to Jesus Christ on the first Pentecost were Israelites. So the roots of the multitude of descendants from those first Christians are from Israelites. This has been the theology of the last 2,000 years. Anything else is revisionist theology.
Vlad if you are a Jew I can understand and recognize that you do not believe this. But if you are a Christian then you have been deceived. You might want to read this page on the Chosen. It's mostly a collection of Biblical verses.
http://www.whymostfail.com/chosen.html
Vlad if you worship a people then you are violating the first commandment.
A correction is needed Vlad. The Holy Roman Empire that was sometimes aligned with the Church and sometimes not has been defunct since 1806. Charlemagne was crowned Emperor of the Romans in 800 and was then the forerunner of the Holy Roman Empire. Otto crowned King of Germany in 962 was the first emperor of the realm that later became known as the Holy Roman Empire. In 1512 the name was officially changed to Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation. The last Holy Roman Emperor was Francis II, who abdicated and dissolved the Empire in 1806 during the Napoleonic Wars. Despite its name, for most of its history the empire did not include Rome within its borders.
As Paraglider so clearly pointed out, Christianity has been hijacked in the US by the Christian Zionist movement and at the same time Judaism has been hijacked in Israel by Zionists. In Part 6 of the video series above Dr. William Baker, a Protestant Pastor in the US agrees with this by saying "I as a Christian and a Christian pastor object. Not in my name and not in the name of over 115 to 120 million Christians do you dare say that we support injustice and deceit. We do not."
Vlad this hub is to inform about the injustice and deceit of Zionism and to end the occupation. If you have some facts to add then add them without going off on a tangent. Try to keep with the topic.
Everything could be magnified by own mind. I love Catholics, Jews, Muslims but not any -ism. God is one and I am not polytheistic. Just want to help. I fallow only Bible. It is my daily food. Jesus is my Lord. Israel is iris of God’s eye and it is not wise to poke in it.
Vlad if you don't want to listen to what Christians have to say about this then please just read what I have posted about what Jews have to say about it. It is completely different to what we have been told. I have posted this hub on my own accord, not with any affiliation. The video series is very informative and very revealing. In part 3 of the video series above it is actually an Israeli Jew, Phyllis Bennis from the Institute of Policy Studies that says, "The Palestinians, they were not the Nazis, they were not responsible for the Holocaust, but they were the ones that paid the price."
Mike, Vlad is another one who tells me that I worship Satan because I ask questions. I don't get it! REally asking questions of someone's religioun is just what Jesus taught us to do and yet when we do it and find answers that don't coincide with their religion we get called all kinds of names. I amy not be totally with the Catholic Church but I don go putting them down. My husband is a devout Roman Catholic and there is a purpose to everything and in the right times.
@Vlad, It is OK if you want to shut your eyes and go by your holy book and not really read what is in that, but for the rest of us who are looking for the truth--in people, that is our right too. You can be left in the dark as most religions will keep you there, but the light does shine upon the dark when it is time and this is the time that is coming.
Now FAITH is totally different from religion. You talk about --isms, wow that is a big one that you just covered yourself up with. Look it up in the dictionary and it is a doing word, I do believe.
@Vladimir, You told me in e-mail that I worship Satan for one of my hubs. Mike doesn't say that he hates anyone. Where do some of you people get your stiff???? Hate starts with you.
Thanks LG. There's no need to reply to Vlad's comments anymore. After his last one that I deleted it's very clear that he has his blinders on. Anymore comments by him won't last here long before I delete them. It's very clear that he doesn't have a good grasp of the topic at all. This fact sheet by the Jewish Voice for Peace shows how the zionists have also discriminated against Sephardi, Mizrahi, Arab and other Jewish groups in Palestine. Actually I was going to write another hub just on what the Jewish Voice for Peace have to say but I decided to include it here to keep it all together. So I'll be adding more from the Jewish Voice for Peace later. This first fact sheet from them is also very revealing.
Sorry it took so long to get back here. Sometimes I get pulled in a million different directions and the hub comments just pile on. I will take a look at the site in a minute.
Weeeeel My internet keeps going down. I shall save it to my favorites and go to it tomorrow. I don't know what is going on here but my electric went out three times today and I have been knocked off the internet about 10 already.
Yeah I hear you LG about getting side tracked. I hope things get fixed for you.
Wow awesome hub! Thanks for sharing all this info, although some people have closed their minds to the facts and others are quick to comment against this hub without even watching the footage.
Voted Up, useful, awsome and beautiful
Thanks Ranzi. It's clear that you "are not brainwashed like most of the masses and can identify from right and wrong." :-)
SirDent Level 4 Commenter 19 months ago
The Jews are NOT promoting brain washing children in military training camps, teaching them how to blow themselves up and cause maximum deaths of Jews and other non Muslims. The Jews don't hijack planes, nor kill athletes at the Olympics, or blow themselves up in German restaurants.
There is NOT one single Jew who has destroyed a church. There is NOT a single Jew who protests by killing people.
The Jews don't traffic slaves, nor have leaders calling for Jihad and death to all the Infidels.
Perhaps the world's Muslims should consider investing more in standard education and less in blaming the Jews for all their problems.
Muslims must ask 'what can they do for humankind' before they demand that humankind respects them.
Regardless of your feelings about the crisis between Israel and the Palestinians and Arab neighbors, even if you believe there is more culpability on Israel 's part, the following two sentences really say it all:
'If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel' . Benjamin Netanyahu